Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all' avviamento di circa 10 secondi.
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genny 009/08/2013 - 11:48Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all' avviamento di circa 10 secondi.
buongiorno a tutti. in officina ho un problema con una opel astra 1.7dti del 2003 codice motore y17dt. la macchina tarda ad avviarsi di circa 10 secondi, il cliente mi riferisce di aver revisionato gli iniettori , ma senza risolvere il problema.in centralina non riscontro errori,il circuito alimentazione sembra a posto, da cosa potrebbe dipendere?
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ansservice 009/08/2013 - 13:52Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\' avviamento di circa 10 secondi.
tutto niente servono parametri e conoscere batteria e giri mot avv in avv
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poker333 011/08/2013 - 21:40Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\' avviamento di circa 10 secondi.
>>> Tento una ipotesi....mi vine in mente un post che avevo letto inerente una ibiza 3 cilindri iniezione pompa PDE, di una signora, lasciata da una officina di elettrauto&meccanica, perché partiva male, dopo una settimana di epripezie, di post letti, di pareri richiesti, di una distribuzione danneggiata, scoprono che mancava la compressione dei cilindri; causa tagliandi fai da te con olio non conforme, ricordiamo che il PDE vuole l'olio con l'EP.
Credo che questo sia il caso, test di compressione da fare...
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poker333 011/08/2013 - 21:43
Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\' avviamento di circa 10 secondi.
>>Quel propulsore era nato con un set di fasce pistoni con elga particolare che aveva delle caratteristiche endotermiche particolari, per i primi 40.000 km permettevano un consumo di olio anomalo ed una compressione lievemente limitata, poi un consumo di olio minore e conseguente usura dei cilindri...
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omac 112/08/2013 - 00:10Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\' avviamento di circa 10 secondi.
Hai sbagliato motore, quello si diceva del motore 2.0 x20dt e comunque lasciava il tempo che trovava, questo e isuzu e con Opel non c entra nulla salvo l uso e la proprietà gm: mai visto un 1.7 sano mangiare olio. Occhio che quello che si legge in rete va filtrato dall esperienza, altrimenti si rischiano abbagli: stupidaggini se ne leggono molte, e sono in quantità superiore alle informazioni corrette.
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poker333 012/08/2013 - 12:09
Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\' avviamento di circa 10 secondi.
AH,,potrei anche avere sbagiato...ma avevo un amico con l'astra 1.7TD che andava ad olio fin da nuova, ed in officina lo hanno consolato con queste parole.
Conosco la versione ISUZU, peccato i problemi degli accessori quali pompa iniezione e centralina..
Rimane valida la mia tesi, se non è un banale problema di iniezione non vedo altre tesi da prendere in considerazione..
Vediamo come va a finire...
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ansservice 012/08/2013 - 13:47Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\' avviamento di circa 10 secondi.
cosa è il PDE
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omac 012/08/2013 - 13:55Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
@ poker, una rondine non fa primavera. Centralina pompa solo su DTI e per banale saldatura, per il resto non mi risultano problemi alle pompe di qualsiasi genere se non pe uso di combustibili inidonei; ovvie eccezioni, ma in ogni cosa. Vedo più probabile l ipotesi engymet.
Non mischiamo troppo le cose, vw e i suoi motori (3 o 4 cilindri la stessa cosa sono) avranno i loro problemi come tutti, se poi li si aiuta, non vedo come possano fare casistica.
Pde acronimo tedesco per iniettore pompa, ma mi rifiuto di pensare che ans non lo sappia.
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poker333 012/08/2013 - 21:12
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>>< Il mio era solo un esempio....ora vediamo che succede....spesso si prende in esame sempre e solo l'elettronica , e si tralascia il motore...
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omac 012/08/2013 - 23:08Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
E chi ha parlato di elettronica nella fattispecie?
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ansservice 013/08/2013 - 07:18Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
OMAC ho visto confusione e allora ho barato, tutto qua!!!!
ma poker333 non mi ha seguito
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poker333 013/08/2013 - 11:45
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<Non volgio alimentare polemiche inutili, ribadisco la mia tesi: verifcare la comprssione dei cilindri.
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thedoc 013/08/2013 - 17:40Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Omac voleva dire non confondiamo il mungere con il ******re!!!!!!!
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omac 013/08/2013 - 21:30Opel astra 1.7 dti tarda all\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
C È un che di sintonia...